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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is antitrust defined?

Google at least lists Facebook and Twitter in its SERPs. I don't see either of those two doing much to return that favour.

At what point does them promoting their own products become unfair?

And do these stories in the media - and others like it - not suggest the likes of FB and Twitter are a tad worried?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/04/040704.asp#axzz1jLb2BXib

I think it's abusing your monopoly position in one industry to help prevent free competition in another industry. So when Microsoft used their desktop monopoly to massively push Internet Explorer it was regarded as un-competitive towards Netscape.

In this instance it is Google taking their dominant position in search and unfairly promoting G+ in favour of Facebook or Twitter.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adigaskell wrote:
In this instance it is Google taking their dominant position in search and unfairly promoting G+ in favour of Facebook or Twitter.


Do they promote it that much in search, though? I don't think I've see G+ appear any more in the SERPs than I have Twitter or FB.

When you're logged in to Google, though, which will be commonplace if you use Gmail or some of the other services... then I would agree. I'm not sure what % of Google users are logged in when they use Google... that would be interesting to know.

I don't seem to remember there being antitrust complaints when Google Buzz was around. It seems strange that they only play this card when they are (presumably) more worried by the product.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well of course, it only really matters if they are damaging the competition by abusing their monopoly in another sector Smile

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16511794
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another

http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2137309/Google-Search-Plus-and-Our-Ever-Decreasing-Circles
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well yes... I suppose that is the point! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wired have a nice article on this

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2012/01/dirty-secrets-social-search/
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've written about the effect of Search+ on search in my blog at

http://philbradley.typepad.com/phil_bradleys_weblog/2012/01/why-google-search-plus-is-a-disaster-for-search.html

I've been banging on about the role of social media in search and this is just the next iteration of it. Like it or hate it, this is the way that search is going. I think Google has - in usual style been pretty inept at what they've done, but it's an early example of the way that things are moving.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're right there Phil. The so called semantic web has been spoken about for years so it's no surprise that getting more user feedback into the search algorithm is likely. No problem with that at all. Google's approach however, well, y'know Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting bit here about the potential now for G+ spamming due to the power it has over serps.

http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2137553/Rank-for-Anything-You-Want-on-Google-Search-Plus-Your-World
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting stuff.

http://econsultancy.com/uk/blog/8727-google-could-face-eu-antitrust-action-by-april
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is an antitrust case to answer, it makes sense for it to be addressed sooner rather than later.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New comScore data shows that users spend just a few minutes per month on Google+, compared to around 8 hours per month on Facebook.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204653604577249341403742390.html
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting take on it all by TechCrunch.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/28/no-more-no-more-no-more-no-more/

Basically suggesting that Google don't care if you visit G+ often or not, all they care about is that you visit once and upload all of the biographical information they need to better target ads to you on the serps.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm... interesting!

And I would imagine plenty of people will do that much.
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